Saturday, February 25, 2012
Free write: Bell
As much as Bell's writing is really just his feelings on art, it has definitely on of the easier reads of the philosophers so far in the course. I feel he is simply trying to convey his feelings that art should bring people together in a feeling of pure joy that everyone should strive to feel and strive to understand so that it is more real. He wants to take the mundane every-day aspect out of as well in order to make it more universal. He wants a universal abstract art world. However, no matter what he thinks, he can never truly remove it as I said before, art is what people see art as from their experience. One should not strive to remove their emotion from a piece, in my opinion. However, I appreciate his view and I understand why he wished for it.
Q+A: Clive Bell 2
Does the circularity of Bell’s aesthetic emotion and significant form discredit his point?
Bell's aesthetic emotion, as mentioned in an earlier post, is the emotion received from the lines and colors of a piece of visual art, called significant form. Significant form is based off the emotion received as aesthetic emotion. And the emotion is only seen as peculiar and part of real ecstasy. Neither is really truly defined. Neither are grounded in a solid fact and it brings down the theory. How can Bell expect us to believe that his theory is truth if there can be no explanation of what is happening in the theory. Then he explains that there are people who know art truly and understand and yet he is one of them and does not understand. He discredits himself with his vagueness.
Bell's aesthetic emotion, as mentioned in an earlier post, is the emotion received from the lines and colors of a piece of visual art, called significant form. Significant form is based off the emotion received as aesthetic emotion. And the emotion is only seen as peculiar and part of real ecstasy. Neither is really truly defined. Neither are grounded in a solid fact and it brings down the theory. How can Bell expect us to believe that his theory is truth if there can be no explanation of what is happening in the theory. Then he explains that there are people who know art truly and understand and yet he is one of them and does not understand. He discredits himself with his vagueness.
Question of the Week: Bell
How does Clive Bell establish that the aesthetic world is a "world with emotions of its own" in which "the emotions of life find no place" (267)? Do you think he explains this fully? Can you think of reasons or examples as to why he is right/wrong?
He never truly explains as how it is different is that the aesthetic emotion is peculiar and that it stands out on its own. How this works can't be deciphered because there is no standard definition of the term. Even still, the emotions people feel from art are based off their everyday lives. What they find in art is a reflection of themselves. Bell however, believes that the true ecstasy of art comes from the complete removal of the mundane from art, but that can never truly be done as what I enjoy in art and look for, comes from my everyday life experiences.
He never truly explains as how it is different is that the aesthetic emotion is peculiar and that it stands out on its own. How this works can't be deciphered because there is no standard definition of the term. Even still, the emotions people feel from art are based off their everyday lives. What they find in art is a reflection of themselves. Bell however, believes that the true ecstasy of art comes from the complete removal of the mundane from art, but that can never truly be done as what I enjoy in art and look for, comes from my everyday life experiences.
Q+A: Clive Bell 1
How does Bell relate to the Hume and Tolstoy points of view?
Clive Bell has a lot of similarities with both Hume and Tolstoy. Like Tolstoy, Clive Bell believes that the emotion behind art, is what makes it true and that those feelings, those shared emotions will bring people together. Also like Hume, Bell believes that society has been tricked into believing in false arts, for Bell it is representational art. Only people who are sensitive can find the true art, just like Hume's true critic. Bell's aesthetic emotion is a form a pure ecstasy that can come from only pure and correct understanding of an art. Like Hume, Bell believes that what people feel about art is true to them no matter what, however it is not the truth for society as a whole.
Clive Bell has a lot of similarities with both Hume and Tolstoy. Like Tolstoy, Clive Bell believes that the emotion behind art, is what makes it true and that those feelings, those shared emotions will bring people together. Also like Hume, Bell believes that society has been tricked into believing in false arts, for Bell it is representational art. Only people who are sensitive can find the true art, just like Hume's true critic. Bell's aesthetic emotion is a form a pure ecstasy that can come from only pure and correct understanding of an art. Like Hume, Bell believes that what people feel about art is true to them no matter what, however it is not the truth for society as a whole.
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